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The
End of Poverty
Onnesha Roychoudhuri, MotherJones.com
May 27,
2005
http://www.alternet.org/story/22012/
In February
of this year, UN Secretary General Kofi Annan remarked: "We will
not defeat terrorism unless we also tackle the causes of conflict
and misgovernment in developing countries. And we will not defeat
poverty so long as trade and investment in any major part of the
world are inhibited by fear of violence or instability." The point
was that a broader global security strategy needed to go hand in
hand with a poverty reduction strategy. To that end, the UN set
about drawing up its Millennium Development Goals (MDGs). Adopted
by all member countries in 2000, the MDGs aim to achieve everything
from eradicating extreme poverty to ensuring universal primary education
and basic health care access, all by the year 2015.
In order to
figure out how to reach these goals, Annan organized a panel of
over 250 development experts to lay out practical strategies for
promoting rapid development. Headed by economist Jeffrey Sachs,
the panel published their final report in January of 2005. The report
calls for both an increase in aid from Western countries and a reallocation
of funding priorities in the developing countries themselves. The
report also calls for more aid to be given on a local level. By
bypassing governments, the UN hopes to spark more immediate and
effective development. For instance, in one test case conducted
in Kenya, UN funding went straight to the village of Sauri, where
the schools were able to provide much-needed food for their students,
and hence jumped in ranking from 68th to 7th in the district.
Shortly after
the release of the UN report came the publication of Sachs' book,
"The
End of Poverty," in which he laid out his own strategies
for eradicating poverty by 2025. Sachs, who gained renown for advising
Latin American and Asian governments on economic reform, has gained
popularity as "can-do" economist amidst a cacophony of naysayers
on development. But his optimistic attitude has also attracted quite
a bit of skepticism. Why is it that decades of development economics
haven't achieved the elimination of poverty? What makes Sachs' proposals
so special? Is eradicating poverty a feasible goal to achieve in
our lifetime? Sachs recently sat down with Mother Jones to
discuss these issues.
Mother Jones:
What makes your plan to end poverty so different from the development
efforts that were tried in the 1950s and '60s? Why hasn't five decades
worth of development work been very successful thus far?
Jeffrey
Sachs: I think so far there's been a lack of appropriate effort,
which includes many things. For development to work, rich countries
need to help poor countries make certain practical investments that
are often really very basic. Once you get your head around development
issues and realize how solvable many of them are, there are tremendous
things that can be done. But for decades we just haven't tried to
do many of these basic things. For instance, one issue that has
been tragically neglected for decades now is malaria. That's a disease
that kills up to 3 million people every year. It's a disease that
could be controlled quite dramatically and easily if we just put
in the effort. It's truly hard for me to understand why we aren't.
What do you
say to critics who argue that it's a waste to put more money into
a development system that hasn't used that money very effectively
thus far?
Well,
we have to be smart about whatever we're doing. But I'm quite convinced
that, broadly speaking, economic development works. The main arguments
of the Millennium Project Report, and the main argument of my book
is that there are certain places on the planet that, because of
various circumstances—geographical isolation, burden of disease,
climate, or soil—these countries just can't quite get started. So
it's a matter of helping them get started, whether to grow more
food or to fight malaria or to handle recurring droughts. Then,
once they're on the first rung of the ladder of development, they'll
start climbing just like the rest of the world.
So do you
believe that past efforts, to get these less-developed countries
on the "first rung," haven't been pragmatic enough?
Part
of it is that many of these countries are invisible places, neglected
by us politically, neglected by our business firms, by international
markets, and by trade. We tend to focus on these countries only
when they're in such extraordinary crises that they get shown on
CNN because they're in a deep drought or a massive war, which is
something that impoverished countries are much more prone to falling
to. There haven't been too many stories in our press about Senegal,
Ghana, Tanzania, Malawi, or Ethiopia, other than when the disasters
hit. And yet these are places that are in very deep trouble all
of the time, but with largely solvable problems. And those are the
kinds of the places that I'm talking about as being stuck in extreme
poverty.
If there's
been no real effort to draw the world's attention to those places,
is there any hope that funding will go there?
The
world got side-tracked from development issues during the post-9/11
crisis period. During the war in Iraq there were bitter divisions
in the world community, and the idea of being able to focus on the
problems of extreme poverty or malaria or drought and chronic hunger
in Africa were just not at the top of the world's debate.
But I think
the tsunami in the Indian Ocean last December, in which we could
all see the scope of the devastation on our television screens,
shifted discussion towards the plight of the world's poor. So now
there are some positive signs. Tony Blair has pushed for an Africa
Commission which just produced a report in March that focuses on
poorest of the poor in Africa. There will be a UN poverty summit
this September which is predicted to be the largest gathering of
world leaders in history. And I'm traveling extensively around the
world talking about these issues. So I think that even in our country,
there is a growing discussion.
I know that
former World Bank employee and economist William Easterly has criticized
your proposals and called for what he terms a "piecemeal reform"
approach in which development efforts are carried out one step at
a time, with subsequent evaluation. What is your response to this?
Basically,
I don't think that we should be choosing between whether a young
girl has immunizations or water, or between whether her mother and
father are alive, because they have access of treatment for AIDS,
or whether she has a meal at school, or whether her father and mother,
who are farmers, are able to grow enough food to feed their family
and earn some income. Those all strike me as quite doable and practical
things that can be done at once.
I make the analogy
that farmers, to grow their food, need good soil, sunshine, proper
rain, and heat. If you don't [have] one of those, even if you have
the other three, your crop is still not going to grow. A lot of
life in a poor village is like that. If you have a clinic but you
don't have safe drinking water, or if you have safe drinking water
and a clinic, but you don't have bed nets to fight malaria, you
just don't get the kind of needs met and the basic quality of life
that gives you a chance. I think that Bill Easterly misunderstands
what I propose. I'm not proposing a single global plan dictated
by some UN central command. Quite the opposite, I'm proposing that
we help people help themselves. This can be done without legions
of people rushing over to these countries to build houses and schools.
This is what people in their own communities can do if we give them
the resources to do it.
Part of Easterly's
argument is that if you implement different strategies all at once,
it will be difficult to isolate and understand which strategies
worked effectively, and which did not. Do you share this concern?
I
have been working with over 250 of my colleagues on the Millennium
Development Report. Everybody here is an expert on a different thing.
The soil scientists really know a lot about how to improve soil
nutrients and the doctors really know a lot about how to keep children
alive. The malariologists really know how to control malaria and
the hydrologists really know how to get safe drinking water in a
community. One doesn't have to test whether it's good to have more
food production, or malaria bed nets or doctors or teachers. These
are proven technologies. If we were introducing something new, that
would be different, but ours is not an approach based on new discoveries,
this is an approach based on the best of proven technologies.
Some critics
have expressed concern that the Millennium Goals may set unrealistic
targets for certain countries. What if those countries fail to meet
the specified level of development and then disillusioned donors
decide to lower their funding?
First,
it should be understood that the goals in most cases are set proportionate
to a given country's situation. So we'll reduce by two-thirds the
child mortality rate, or by three-fourths the maternal mortality
rate. We're not aiming at the same absolute standard in every country.
I think that the other thing that is really important to understand
is that as I have been working with the UN on this for the last
3 years and meeting leaders all over the world. What I've found
is that their concern isn't that the goals are too high. Exactly
the opposite: They actually want these UN goals, they want them
to be ambitious, and they want to be held to account. And they want
their development partners, the developed world, to be held to account
on following through on commitments. Again, this all goes towards
pressuring rich nations to set aside 0.7 percent of GNP for development
aid. That is not a goal that I set, or that the UN set, this is
a goal that was adopted 35 years ago by the world community and
the goal that was set again in the Monterrey consensus signed by
the U.S. in 2002.
What about
aid being sent to countries that have a serious problem with corruption?
Some have argued that large amounts of aid will merely prop up those
regimes. Can poverty be eradicated while corrupt politicians are
in office?
My
experience is that there's corruption everywhere: in the U.S., in
Europe, in Asia, and in Africa. It's a bit like infectious disease—you
can control it, but it's very hard to eradicate it. And yes, there
are some cases where the corruption is so massive that unless you
are really, really clever and come up with some radically new approach
to the issue, you're going to have a hard time accomplishing many
development goals. It's quite hard in a place like Zimbabwe, now,
where the current government, in a quite despicable way, clings
to power. Or, in a country where there is absolutely no transparency
or where you have a family ruling violently to stay in power. It's
very hard to do a lot of the things that really need to be done
to build an effective school system, a health system, and so on.
I don't have any magic solution for those situations.
But, let me
note that the world successfully eradicated small pox, and not just
in countries that scored high on a governance index but in all parts
of the world. This was an international effort which targeted a
specific outcome undertaken by professionals using a proven technology
and a very extensive monitoring system. And that's the general model
for our aid proposals. Nothing is done on trust. Everything should
be done on a basis of measurement and monitoring. When you really
focus, there are so many ways to be clever about how to do this
to make it work better. Don't just send money; send bed nets, send
in auditors, make targets quantitative. There are a lot of tricks,
a lot of ways, that if one is practical about this, one can get
results.
But what happens
is that everyone's wringing their hands about corruption without
trying to solve practical problems. And right now, we're not even
helping the well-governed places, the places where we are capable
of finding absolutely practical and effective approaches to turning
help into real success on the ground. The basic issue is not to
lecture about morality and governance. The basic issue is, is there
a way for us to help to fight AIDS, TB, malaria, and other killers
which are taking an incredible number of lives? I've seen these
children dying, each time I visit these clinics. And these are absolutely
preventable deaths.
Now you suggest
in your book that we need to assess ailing economies just as doctors
assess patients. You call it "clinical economics." Does the current
academic curriculum for development economics provide a sufficient
framework for educating people to ensure that the MDGs will be achieved
by future economists?
No
it doesn't. I realized 10 or 15 years ago that the students in economics
departments write dissertations about countries that they never
stepped foot in because their advisor gives them a database from
Nigeria or Kenya or some place else, and they do their thesis that
way. That's like becoming a doctor without ever seeing a patient.
We don't do case studies. We don't train students to understand
the differences across countries. There are a tremendous number
of loose generalizations made all the time
Similarly, people
aren't trained in the practical experiences of being operational.
Sometimes people say, "We teach academic things, we don't teach
operational things." But, frankly, to do development right, you
have to do something that's more like going through medical school
and having a clinical hospital where you actually learn about different
cases, and do case analyses. When something goes wrong, you study
it. There are what are called "M&M rounds" in hospitals—morbidity
and mortality rounds. When something doesn't work, when a patient
dies or doesn't get better, the doctors get together to discuss
the case. We don't do that in academic economics. For me, the field
is not properly organized right now to really take on these challenges
adequately and I'm hoping that the field will become more like a
clinical science.
In your book,
you recount some of your experiences in developing countries. In
one passage you note, "One day in Goni's office we were brainstorming
and hit on the idea of establishing an emergency social fund that
would direct money to the poorest communities to help finance local
infrastructure like water harvesting, or irrigation, or road improvements.
I picked up the phone and called the World Bank. Katherine Marshall,
the head of the Bolivia team at the Bank immediately responded,
"You're right, let's do this." Why is it that a whole World Bank
team specializing in Bolivia hadn't come up with the idea that you
had?
Well,
sometimes they have ideas, sometimes I have ideas. It just so happened
in this case that the idea came from me. But I do feel that in Washington
over the last 25 years, especially during this era called "the structural
adjustment era," there hasn't been a lot of actual problem-solving.
There has been a lot of concern about budget-saving on the part
of the rich countries. A lot of what was really happening in Washington
had a subtext: "Keep poor people away from our taxpayers, tell them
to tighten their belts, tell them to solve their own problems, tell
them to keep sending their debt payments to us."
It was, in my
view, a very unhappy and unsatisfactory period and there were, no
doubt, a lot of creative people that were prepared to do a lot of
things but they weren't given assignments to do that. I was absolutely
shocked and aghast when I learned that in the late 1990s the World
Bank and other donors weren't paying a penny to help treat people
dying of AIDS.
Rarely do rich
countries say, "Look, we're just not prepared to spend money to
save poor people's lives." Instead, you get a lot of skepticism.
"You can't do this, this is impossible. We're doing everything we
can after all. We've tried everything. Let's go slowly. Let's do
one thing at a time." I don't buy those arguments. I think that
they all essentially stem from a vision that has been forced on
the professional staff of these agencies because they have no money
to spend. And they have no money to spend because in the end, the
United States and other rich countries aren't giving them the resources
to enable them to think ambitiously enough. One of the reasons why
that is, is because the American people think we're doing everything
we can be doing and frankly because they're told that there's nothing
more we can do.
Do you think
the U.S. will ever agree to dedicate 0.7 percent of its GNP to development
aid?
I
don't think that any leading politician believes we're going to
do that right now. It's not the conventional wisdom. The way it's
going to happen is if the public tells the politicians, "Yes, we
want to do this, we want to follow through on our word, it's good
for us, and it's good for the world."
I've found in
talks and discussion about the Millennium Project that people are
very surprised to find out what the U.S. is and is not doing vis-à-vis
the world's poor. Opinion surveys show, and I find this verified
in audiences, e-mails, and discussion groups, that people tend to
overestimate U.S. assistance efforts, usually by a factor of about
25 or 30. People think that we give several percent of our annual
income and several percent, maybe even a quarter of budget to foreign
aid and they're shocked to find out that it's actually much less
than 1 percent of our budget. They're shocked to find that throughout
Africa, the kind of practical investments that I'm talking about
run to about 1 penny out of every $100 of our GNP. They can't believe
it, but that's the unfortunate situation. When they find that out,
and they see that we're spending $500 billion on the military and
only about $1 to $2 billion on investments in Africa, they're concerned
because I think that they feel this is probably not the best choice
for America.
What do you
think of two recent proposed strategies—President Bush's Millennium
Challenge Accounts (MCA), and Britain's International Financing
Fund (IFF), proposed by Tony Blair and Gordon Brown—as means of
promoting global development?
They're
both good ideas. But by now, the MCA was supposed to have dispersed
$1.7 billion dollars, $3.3 billion in the second year, and $5 billion
in the third year. It has missed all its targets. In three years,
it's only committed about $100 million dollars to one project. It
has not yet been turned into a reality.
Brown's is also
a very good idea. Unfortunately the U.S. basically said "no" to
participation in that. I think the European countries will undertake
the IFF, but not with any U.S. support. But the IFF is a very good
concept—the idea is that Britain and six other countries have announced
a timetable to reach a goal of dedicating 0.7 percent of their GNP
to development by the year 2015. So what this would do is allow
them actually to borrow against the rising trend so that they could
frontload some of the money.
What the Africa
Commission, the Millennium Development Report, the World Bank and
IMF have all found is that right now poor countries could usefully
absorb a tremendous increase of money and use it properly. The IMF
and World Bank recently released a report called the Global Monitoring
Report which said that aid should be doubled. There is a professional
understanding that the money is needed to break the poverty trap
and save lives and that the money can be effectively used.
*Onnesha
Roychoudhuri is an editorial fellow at Mother Jones.
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