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Zimbabwe opposition leader insists any deal give him real power
Celia
W. Dugger, New York Times
August 16, 2008
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/17/world/africa/17zimbabwe.html?ref=world
The leader of
Zimbabwe's opposition - in a feisty and jovial mood - said on Saturday
in his first interview since he began power-sharing talks with President
Robert Mugabe almost a month ago that he will not agree to any deal
that does not give him the authority to effectively govern his economically
ruined homeland.
"It's better not
to have a deal than to have a bad deal," said Morgan Tsvangirai,
the former trade union leader who has been Mr. Mugabe's nemesis
for almost a decade.
Mr. Tsvangirai was clearly
sending a forceful message to both Mr. Mugabe and President Thabo
Mbeki of South Africa, the mediator of the talks, about the limits
of his willingness to compromise. After three days of intensive
negotiations that adjourned on Tuesday, the protagonists have again
begun conferring with Mr. Mbeki here on the sidelines of a meeting
of southern African leaders about how to get talks moving again.
Mr. Mugabe,
whose re-election in a June run-off after 28 years in power was
widely seen as a sham, took his place this morning on a dais crowded
with other heads of state, but he did not receive his usual adulatory
welcome. Dignitaries from across the region were silent, even somber,
as the presidents strode into the hall.
Mr. Mbeki told the assembled
leaders that he is trying to engineer a final agreement this weekend.
And the pressure on him to deliver a deal is evident. Just outside
the convention hall where the Southern African Development Community
had gathered, there was a raucous anti-Mugabe demonstration of trade
unionists allied with Mr. Mbeki's own governing party.
But Mr. Tsvangirai, seen
by some African leaders and Western diplomats as having the only
legitimate claim on the presidency after besting Mr. Mugabe in a
credible March election, said the most basic issue of how he and
Mr. Mugabe would share power remains unsettled.
George Charamba, Mr.
Mugabe's press secretary, said in an interview Thursday that in
any power-sharing government Mr. Mugabe would remain as head of
the government and in charge of the cabinet - conditions Mr. Tsvangirai
said were untenable.
Mr. Tsvangirai said it
was acceptable to him if Mr. Mugabe retained the title of president
with a role in overseeing the government. And Mr. Tsvangirai is
willing to split the cabinet posts between his and the governing
party. But all the cabinet ministers would need to report to him,
he said. Only a coherent governing structure would enable Zimbabwe
to attract the aid from international donors that is essential to
rebuilding Zimbabwe's shattered economy, he said.
"Who is in charge
of the cabinet?" Mr. Tsvangirai asked. "To whom do all
these ministers report? Can you dismiss them if they breach? It's
fundamental."
After years in which
Mr. Mugabe, 84, and Mr. Tsvangirai, 56, never met, they have spent
a lot of time together recently.
Mr. Tsvangirai described
Mr. Mugabe as physically frail, mentally sharp - and paranoid about
the intentions of the British in particular and the West in general
to bring him down in "conspiracies that do not exist,"
as Mr. Tsvangirai put it.
"I've joked with
him," said Mr. Tsvangirai. "I've talked to him. I've tried
to put sense to him. But he is adamant. I've even suggested to him
that perhaps it's time for him to give up - straight in the face."
Mr. Tsvangirai is not
alone in wishing Mr. Mugabe would let go of power. Mr. Mugabe's
two harshest critics in the region were absent at the meeting Saturday.
Botswana's president, Seretse Khama Ian Khama, boycotted it on grounds
that Mr. Mugabe's presence there would endow him with a legitimacy
he did not deserve. And President Levy Mwanawasa of Zambia was still
in a Paris hospital after suffering a stroke.
But Zambia's foreign
minister, Kabinga J. Pande, in a speech on his president's behalf,
suggested the integrity of the regional body of southern African
leaders itself was at stake in the Zimbabwe crisis. Mr. Pande described
events in Zimbabwe as "a serious blot on the culture of democracy
in our subregion."
Zimbabwean authorities
on Thursday temporarily blocked Mr. Tsvangirai from boarding a flight
to Johannesburg, saying he did not have proper travel documents.
Officials in Mr. Mugabe's party accused Mr. Tsvangirai of taking
his marching orders from American and European diplomats in the
talks.
Mr. Tsvangirai's party,
in turn, accused governing party officials and intelligence agents
of trying to recruit opposition members of Parliament and released
a roll call of more than 100 of its supporters who it said were
killed in state-sponsored violence during the election season.
Asked Saturday what he
would say to Mr. Mugabe if he was sitting next to him, Mr. Tsvangirai
patted the couch in his hotel room and said: "I'll say, 'Old
man, you're out of touch. You're out of place. Look around you.
Who of your age is around?"
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