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When is Baba coming home? Interview with Munyaradzi Gwisai's partner, Shantha Bloemen
Upenyu Makoni-Muchemwa, Kubatana.net
March 11, 2011

Shantha Bloemen is Munyaradzi Gwisai's partner. Munyaradzi Gwisai is the general co-ordinator of the International Socialist Organisation. In February he and 45 others were arrested after meeting to discuss the events in Egypt and Tunisia. They are being charged with treason. 39 of them were released, however Gwisai and five others are still remanded in police custody.

How did you feel when you found out Munya was arrested?
I was in New York where I had been assigned to work for a month and it was my second weekend. I was with my son on a train out to see my old roommate, and an ISO member called me. It took me a minute before I understood that they weren't looking for Munya, and that he had been arrested. I was in shock. As soon as I got to my friend's house I was both emotional and went into 'what do I do to try and help' especially feeling so far away. I got on email and blasted what I knew to as many people as I could. At that stage it wasn't clear about the numbers and there was confusion.

What was your reaction to the charge of treason?
I was in New York, but I did get to speak to Munya briefly when they were on their way to court. The first time and they were sent back. At this point we didn't know what the charges were. We thought it would be subversion and he was certain that they would be out in a few days. I felt like I was in my own little war room, working to get the story out, and then I got on a flight on Friday night, and by then we knew it was treason. It was incredible. It was a surreal experience, and we had a long flight back, which was obviously painful because you're sitting there feeling frustrated. I was with our son, and of course he knows because it's impossible not to discuss it. It was difficult having to contain my emotions, and also try and guard what I said so not to confuse him further or stress him out further. Every time I speak to him he says 'when is Baba coming home?' and he's very angry. It's terrible, you don't want your kids to be afraid of the police, you don't want them to be afraid of the state authorities, but you don't want them to think that their dad's done anything wrong. It's very hard to explain bad governance and democracy and other lofty issues to a four and a half year old.

What has been the most difficult part of this situation for you?
In some ways this has been life changing for me personally. It's now in its third week and I feel I've coped by keeping busy and trying to do as much practical stuff as I can, whether it be getting attention or trying to help the families of those that were detained, or raising money for the bail. But it's also been an insight into what going on in Zimbabwe. I lived here in 2004 but sadly it feels like there is so much fear and paranoia and you don't know what's real and what's not real. That feels much more entrenched than when I lived here. I feel like there's a growing economic divide, and the northern suburbs of Harare are beautiful and filled with supermarkets that are filled with people who have fancy cars so I'm trying to make sense of it all. I've come regularly over the past few years, but this time it's been such an intense experience I don't know yet how to make sense of everything that's going on.

What do you miss most about him?
Being able to talk to him. Munya and I are both very independent people, but we have a very strong commitment to each other, and we talk with each other. He's a much calmer person than I am. It's funny, as I've been getting anxious in the last few days and most probably losing my cool with people I shouldn't, he's the one who, when I saw him briefly yesterday, was like 'stay calm, stay calm'. I was like 'you know what I don't know if I can do that, and it's not in my nature like it is in yours', but I keep on thinking he would want me to try not to lose my cool. I suppose now it's thinking how he will also be changed by this experience. I just met some of those released and hearing bits and pieces of their story, I know they had a very distressing time.

Have you cried?
Oh yes a lot. Shouted, cried . . . the whole gamut. I've been calmer since I got access to see him, even though its from behind a thick metal grille, but that's definitely helped to keep me focused on the fact that he's there and he's alive and he's coming back. My emotions have shifted from being extremely angry to being upset, and frustrated wondering what else haven't I done that could be useful.

In some ways I feel more defiant myself now. I feel that we should stop letting ourselves be intimidated. Now it's how do we use that energy and that feeling constructively to do practical concrete things that help people who are even more at risk than Munya and I, who are living in the poorest parts of the city who are threatened, and intimidated everyday. That's the biggest challenge going forward. How do we show solidarity in a practical way with those people?

Because if we don't and if everyone gives up then where will we be?

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