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embassy spokesperson on WikiLeaks expose
Lance Guma, SW Radio Africa
November 29, 2010
This week SW
Radio Africa journalist Lance Guma focuses on the sensational publication
on Sunday of confidential US government documents, by the website
WikiLeaks, which also included a confidential report from the US
Ambassador to Zimbabwe.
He gets the
reaction of the US Embassy spokesperson in Harare, Sharon Hudson
Dean, political commentator Msekiwa Makwanya and journalist Innocent
Chofamba Sithole. What is the likely fall out from the blunt assessments
made by former Ambassador to Zimbabwe Christopher Dell?
Lance
Guma: Hallo Zimbabwe and welcome to this special edition
of Behind the Headlines where we focus on the leakage of confidential
US government documents by the website Wikileaks on Sunday.
For those not familiar with the Wikileaks, this
is an international non-profit media organisation that publishes
submissions of otherwise unavailable documents from anonymous sources
and leaks. Its website, launched in 2006, is run by the Sunshine
Press and within a year of its launch, the site claimed a data base
that had grown to more than one point two million documents.
Our focus on
Behind the Headlines is a confidential 2007 diplomatic cable from
the then out-going American ambassador to Zimbabwe, Christopher
Dell in which he outlines his views of Zimbabwe's prospects
at the time that was eight months ahead of the 2008
elections.
Ambassador Dell gave blunt assessments of key political
figures in Zimbabwe. This included Mugabe, Tsvangirai, Mutambara,
Welshman Ncube, Tendai Biti, Nelson Chamisa and the mediation efforts
of former South African president, Thabo Mbeki. To get the ball
rolling, I spoke to Sharon Hudson Dean, the spokesperson at the
US embassy in Harare and asked her what reaction to the leakage
has been.
Sharon
Hudson-Dean: Well in general we are following this matter
closely. As a matter of policy we do not comment on documents that
purport to contain classified information and we do strongly condemn
the deliberate and unauthorised disclosure of classified material
by individuals or organisations. This disclosure can put lives at
risk and it can jeopardise our national security.
Guma:
Now we are told this is a confidential 2007 diplomatic cable; for
most of our listeners - what is a diplomatic cable just to put them
in the know?
Hudson-Dean:
Well I cannot speak to the authenticity of any particular document
that may or may not be in the press but I can tell you a little
bit about the diplomatic community's practice of cable writing.
Cables reflect the internal day-to-day analysis and candid assessments
that feed into foreign relations. They are often preliminary, they
can be incomplete expressions of foreign policy so I cannot comment
on any particular document and I'm not meaning to do that
but I would note that they by themselves don't have standing
nor are they a reflection of US policy.
Guma:
But they do contribute in a sense to foreign policy in the sense
that these are observations and general advice from your people
on the ground.
Hudson-Dean:
It is part of a conversation. This is something that all diplomatic
missions for any country do with their capital cities.
Guma:
OK now I'm sure the state media in Zimbabwe are going to be
having a field day with this story and linking it to what they have
always been reporting that the US government has a regime change
agenda. How would you react to that sort of slant to their story?
Hudson-Dean:
Well our policy is very clear and I would echo what Ambassador (Charles)
Ray has been saying repeatedly when he speaks in public or to the
media - that the United States supports development and a
better future for Zimbabweans.
We are fully behind efforts to improve conditions
in this country whether it be in the area of health like for instance
this week we will celebrate World AIDS Day and we look forward to
highlighting successes and also noting what needs to be done, also
in terms of programmes relating to agriculture or trade, things
like that.
We strongly support a better future for Zimbabwe,
we do feel that changes in Zimbabwe need to be made by Zimbabweans
and that is something that Ambassador Ray has said repeatedly -
these are decisions that Zimbabweans must make and that is our policy.
Guma:
And just finally what is your view as a government or maybe as an
embassy to the current coalition government? Would you say it was
a mistake for the MDC, how do you view it?
Hudson-Dean:
As a diplomat I can't give you an analysis of the local politics.
I would just say again, the choices in politics in Zimbabwe must
be made by Zimbabweans and we do support democratic processes, we
support open sharing and flow of information and we support the
establishment of solid democratic institutions that allow Zimbabwean
citizens to make those choices.
Guma:
Well that was Sharon Hudson Dean, the spokesperson at the US embassy
in Harare. What we did next was speak to political analyst Msekiwa
Makwanya and I first asked him for his take on the matter.
Msekiwa
Makwanya: I think it will put different stakeholders in
a very difficult position and some maybe severely compromised but
I would say that this clearly is a frank assessment of a particular
player, in this case the United States diplomatic sources and it
would be very unfortunate if we were too read too much because some
of the things people already knew anyway and the suspicions that
will come out of this or after this may simply create a diplomatic
problem but I don't think a political crisis.
Guma: I'm sure a lot of our listeners will
have heard - I did speak to the US Embassy, that's Sharon
Hudson Dean, the US Embassy spokesperson and she's saying
the views of the former ambassador Christopher Dell do not reflect
US foreign policy. Do you think that will be enough to mitigate
the damage from this?
Makwanya: I think Ambassador Dell had always made
his views very clear in terms of Zimbabwe and where things were
going and I would think that if one is to look at who informs the
US policy its actually their man on the ground and what obviously
the embassy may say in Zimbabwe may not necessarily be something
that people will agree with but in essence, these are views for
goodness sake that are being expressed by individuals and is just
a collection, it's not even a synthesis or an analysis of
the overall policy - on that point I agree.
Guma: It will be a Godsend of course for the state
media, they've always argued the US is seeking a regime change
agenda. Do you think this diplomatic cable as they're calling
it will give them sufficient oxygen to make their argument?
Makwanya: It does but it will not add any value
to them because clearly this is what they've always said and
that is what is being confirmed then I'm sure on that point
they may think obviously that it does give them some credibility
in what they've been saying all along. But despite that fact
I think we ought to be clear on one aspect - I would feel
that it's more of association that they are going to make
than a matter of fact. I think it's going to be difficult
to say out of context what exactly this information is supposed
to mean.
Guma: Lets go into some of the assessments given
by Dell. I'll start off with Robert Mugabe. He says he " . . . has
survived for so long because he is more clever and more ruthless
than any other politician in Zimbabwe. To give the devil his due,
he is a brilliant tactician and has long thrived on his ability
to abruptly change the rules of the game, radicalize the political
dynamic and force everyone else to react to his agenda." What
do you make of that?
Makwanya: My thinking is that Robert Mugabe is not
acting alone in all this and I would imagine even Jesus Christ and
his almighty power could not have done what is being credited to
President Mugabe. That is an outfit that is a very sophisticated
political machinery that has got so many players in it and I think
there the embassy or the ambassador was trying to actually create
a different picture of what I believe is happening on the ground
and we cannot actually credit President Mugabe's survival
on his personal qualities. I think there are many more players there
that are involved in his survival.
Guma: And the former ambassador, Christopher Dell,
on Morgan Tsvangirai he says " . . . he is a brave, committed
man and, by and large, a democrat. He is also the only player on
the scene right now with real star quality and the ability to rally
the masses." But he says "Tsvangirai is also a flawed
figure, not readily open to advice, indecisive and with questionable
judgment in selecting those around him." He goes on to say
"He is the indispensable element for opposition success, but
possibly an albatross around their necks once in power. In short,
he is a kind of Lech Walesa character: Zimbabwe needs him, but should
not rely on his executive abilities to lead the country's recovery."
What do you make of that one?
Makwanya: I think that's a harsh judgement
on Morgan Tsvangirai really. The people that he is working with
were given to him by Congress; of course I know there's been
talk about kitchen cabinet and advisers but we know there are so
many people advising Prime Minister Tsvangirai. My view is that
when you look at such a judgement I think it is misinformed in that
we are all clear that no-one is indispensable in politics for instance
and it simply sends a very wrong message to a party that is supposed
to be a democratic party or outfit but it is also going to create
further problems in the MDC because there will be a view that the
United States doesn't want Tsvangirai to be out of office
which clearly defeats the whole point about leaders coming and going
which is the culture that the MDC is trying to inculcate.
But we also have to respect that they also identify
other people who are capable of leading within the same dossier
so it is clear that there is an understanding that Prime Minister
Tsvangirai's qualities are extremely important for moving
the country forward and we see this in the way our people judged
Tsvangirai in the 2008 election because he did win that election
although he didn't win outrightly but there's clear
truth in his qualities. In fact there are more positives than weaknesses
if you are to put it that way but everyone else has got their witness,
you can't really find anyone who is perfect.
Guma: And former ambassador Christopher Dell on
Arthur Mutambara the leader of the MDC-M, he says of Mutambara " . . . he
is young and ambitious, attracted to radical, anti-western rhetoric
and smart as a whip. But, in many respects he's a light-weight
who has spent too much time reading U.S. campaign messaging manuals
and too little thinking about the real issues."
Makwanya: I think that's saying it as it is.
I think that's an honest assessment and that is being said
by everyone involved when you look at the MDC, they are worried
about some of the things, statements he does that point towards
some issues of maturity there. I think they really were spot on
and there they are clear that he's been obviously following
an American-style of doing things which clearly is Americanised
but I think they are spot on on that one.
Guma: Welshman Ncube, the secretary general of the
Mutambara faction Ambassador Dell says he " . . . has proven
to be a deeply divisive and destructive player in the opposition
ranks and the sooner he is pushed off the stage, the better. But
he is useful to many, including the regime and South Africa, so
is probably a cross to be borne for some time yet." Harsh
criticism?
Makwanya: I think yes in some sense I would tend
to say that I think there is something positive that Welshman has
done in the transitional arrangement that the country is going through
particularly his legalistic and sharp intellectual clarity there
on what's been happening but if parties, to be honest, I think
in the MDC they have generally said he's been very divisive
and I think you can't really argue with that one.
It may sound harsh in the sense that he doesn't
give him any credit which I think is unfair because he has had to,
he has been quite smart in some of the ways he has dealt with the
political scenario in Zimbabwe particularly during the negotiations.
I think he did play some role there.
Guma: Why is there this view though that he is a
polarising figure?
Makwanya: I think because he tends to say it as
it is. He is not a politician, he is a . . . well, he's not
a politician and that is his major problem. Welshman will say it
is as it is, he doesn't care whether this really will work
in favour of the general political direction that some of his colleagues
may be pursuing.
So I think you've
heard him say we want Kariba
Draft at a time when everyone was saying no that really wouldn't
be the proper way to go. So he is the kind of person who is basically
honest but certainly not a politician and because of that I think
sometimes he is not an effective partner when you are dealing with
very difficult circumstances especially the one that ZANU PF and
the MDC found themselves in.
Guma: And commenting lastly on the government of
national unity brokered of course by South African president, or
former South African president Thabo Mbeki Ambassador Dell says
"Mbeki has always favoured stability and in his mind this
means a ZANU-PF-led government of national unity, with perhaps a
few MDC additions. This solution is more likely to prolong than
resolve the crisis and we must guard against letting Pretoria dictate
an outcome which perpetuates the status quo at the expense of real
change and reform." Damning indictment of the GNU there?
Makwanya: It is but my view is that if anything,
South Africa cannot be accused of imposing. They maybe accused of
preventing say the MDC from coming into outright power but they
can't be accused of imposing a solution because you have to
accept that they've always favoured a non-intervention approach
which really has not favoured the weaker side of the coalition which
is the MDC.
I think the view was that South Africa should use
its might and force which it has resisted all the time but I think
that South Africa has been weak to a point of not directly, which
again is something that South Africa has always said is because
of their belief in the people of Zimbabwe deciding on their own
and we know when you say the people of Zimbabwe deciding you mean
to say that the powerful ones will decide.
Guma: That's political analyst Msekiwa Makwanya
giving us his take on the matter. Now to round up the programme
I did speak to Zimbabwean journalist Innocent Chifamba Sithole and
basically got him to summarise for us this breaking story.
Innocent
Chofamba Sithole: There's no love lost between President
Mugabe and ZANU PF and his government and the US government or its
embassy and so I don't think they are shocked by Ambassador
Dell's descriptions of both themselves and the situation in
the country or the likely scenarios that he paints, so there's
nothing to go on there really.
But I think the revelations embarrassed the MDC
more than they do their political adversary, the unity government
because Ambassador Dell gives a candid assessment of the capabilities
of Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai and he says he is a figure who
is more likely going to be useful as a rallying point for the opposition
to get them into power but can't really be counted on to lead
the country to recovery.
And there's always been niggling doubts about
the capabilities of the Prime Minister himself and then Ambassador
Dell also goes in to say that there's not much depth within
the MDC apart say from Nelson Chamisa and Tendai Biti. That is an
indictment because the US is a strong ally of the MDC parties and
they know them in and out because they have a close relationship
and if they should be passing such judgement on key figures within
the opposition movement or within the MDC itself it is quite damning
an assessment.
Likewise, the characterisation of Professor Arthur
Mutambara, the leader of MDC-M and his secretary general Welshman
Ncube - Ambassador Dell passed some very unflattering remarks
on the two gentlemen and I do not think that relations between the
MDC-M and the US embassy or at least the US government if we should
take Ambassador Dell's views as representative of his country's
policy, I don't think relations between those two are very
warm.
Guma: It's a frustrating one for the MDC because
they can't exactly lash out in anger and accuse the US embassy
or the out-going ambassador or former Ambassador Dell of undermining
them because this is communication which was never meant to be public
and was only leaked by the Wikileaks website so what do they do
in the face of this?
Sithole:
I don't know what kind of damage limitation they can move
onto although as you rightly point out it is inappropriate for them
to lash out because as you say, this is not public communication
but a leak and also this is not US policy but this is Ambassador
Dell's private briefing to his government and that is not
US policy so it is difficult there for them to respond.
But I think they would have to find a way of at
least responding to the criticisms within the public domain, perhaps
maybe by subtly letting people know or trying to clear the impression
made that their leader isn't quite capable to run the country
as executive prime minister or president or that their party's
leadership has a serious dearth of whether intellectual or technocratic
depth - they have to do something to respond to those damaging
allegations.
Guma: I did see comment from the MDC and I was told
they were waiting for official communication from the US government
on this matter before shooting from the hip as it were and that
they would give their response in due time. Do you think that's
the best way forward?
Sithole: Yes that is, they obviously need to take
a very measured approach. They are dealing with, the issues are
very sensitive because the allegations themselves are quite damaging
on the one hand and secondly they have a very strong relationship
with the US embassy and the US government.
Their party president, Morgan Tsvangirai has met
President Barack Obama, they've met high, people at high level
of the US government and so they've got very close ties, so
they want to complain I'm sure but they can't do it
in a way that jeopardises that relationship, so this is why I think
they are taking a measured approach.
Guma: That's Zimbabwean journalist Innocent
Chifamba Sithole rounding up the programme for us.
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