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Behind
the Headlines with Blessing-Miles Tendi
Lance Guma, SW Radio Africa
November 15, 2010
This week SW Radio Africa
journalist Lance Guma speaks to Blessing-Miles Tendi, author of
the book, Making History in Mugabe's Zimbabwe, 'Politics,
Intellectuals and the Media.' Tendi argues that ZANU PF have
over the years used a concept known as 'Patriotic History'
in which the political battle is always between 'patriots'
and 'traitors'. Lance asks him why ZANU PF has had to
resort to violence, if this strategy was or is working.
Lance Guma: Hello Zimbabwe and welcome to Behind
the Headlines. My guest this week is Blessing Miles Tendi the author
of the book Making History in Mugabe's Zimbabwe - Politics,
Intellectuals and the Media. Mr Tendi thank you for joining us.
Blessing-Miles
Tendi: Thank you for having me.
Guma:
I take it your book is part of the series Nationalisms Across the
Globe - starting point - can you summarise your book
and what exactly you are exploring?
Tendi:
What the book tries to set out is this, I think I would start off
by saying there's been a glut so to speak of books on Zimbabwe
but a lot of these books have tended to explore the Zimbabwe crisis
since 2000 as simply a struggle against dictatorship but where this
book is different, where it comes in, what it has to say is that
the crisis in Zimbabwe is not simply a struggle against dictatorship.
In fact it is also a
very important struggle over ideas and deep-seated historical issues.
I go back to 1980 when Zimbabwe achieved independence and these
issues and ideas, there's been a struggle over them between
Robert Mugabe's ZANU PF and Morgan Tsvangirai's MDC.
They're struggling to define these issues and ideas, and starting
to address these historical issues and ideas.
Guma: Isn't the
problem though Blessing, the fact that any dictatorship in the world
will always find an excuse to try and legitimise their hold on power
so are you not falling into the trap of intellectualising what is
obvious?
Tendi: Hardly. I would
not say that at all. It does happen that across the globe a dictatorship
has sought to legitimise their hold on power. I think the notion
of using ideas, history and the sort of ideas about history, patriotism,
race, land, human rights, sovereignty as has happened in Zimbabwe
is quite peculiar in African politics. Normally when you try to
understand African politics it's about issues such as ethnicity,
kinship, that sort of thing. The study of ideas in African politics
is rare. I think Zimbabwe provides a very rare interesting case
in point for that and that's what the book tries to explore.
Guma: I suppose though
there's nothing wrong in a battle of ideas but as June 2008
showed in Zimbabwe, when people are killed for voting for a political
party, it ceases to be a battle of ideas does it not?
Tendi: It may seem that
way on the surface and this is what the book is trying to get at.
In fact you have this violence that's there say in 2008 right,
or going back to 2000 but in tandem with this violence, side by
side with the violence is the work of ideas.
For instance I'll
give you one example - one theme the book explores is ideas
of patriotism, how ZANU PF has sought to divide Zimbabwe between
patriots and sell-outs. What ZANU PF regards as patriots are those
who support ZANU PF (and) are presented as patriots. Those who are
opposed to ZANU PF are presented as sell-outs - the MDC.
But if you trace the
idea of this distinction between patriots and sell-outs, you trace
it back to history, the idea of sell-outs, when you construct an
individual or a group, a political party as sell-outs, has always
been used to de-legitimise the right of that particular entity to
exist.
For example in the liberation
war period, to be called a sell-out was a virtual death sentence
right? In post-independence period ZAPU in the early '80s
was constructed as a sell-out party - what happened to them?
The Gukurahundi. Post-2000 the MDC is a sell-out party - what
has happened to them? Violence against the MDC. So you get these
ideas of being a patriot, being a sell-out linked closely with uses
of violence.
Guma: But it seems the
dominant theme there is the fact that the moment you resort to violence
you are admitting that your idea on its own is not enough to win
people over and hence the need to use violence.
Tendi: There is, in a
sense that is true, I will accept that point but I ask you to consider
the point I was making before that the two work together.
For the violence to work,
to be able to go out and beat up MDC supporters, they have to be
constructed as sell-outs first and foremost. They are not Zimbabwean,
they are funded by the British, they're out to usurp our sovereignty
so we have a right to beat them up.
So the ideas have to
be there, these constructions have to be there for the violence
then to become operationalised so the two go together, they closely
rely and that's something that's been missed. Often
the analysis looks at the violence, the dictatorship, the bruteness
- yes that is all true, it's important . . .
Guma: But you could get
away with any idea Blessing, you could get away with any idea no
matter how weak as long as you beat up people because at the end
of the day it is fear that carries the day so your ideas don't
necessarily have to be well-constructed, they could be false and
you would still get away with it.
Tendi: I would not, yes
violence, fear has its uses, it has ways that immobilises support
but I want to push you back to the notion of ideas and this time
I want to move away a bit from its link to violence per se.
Guma: OK let's
go to some of the issues that you touch on. You refer to land dispossession
as the primary theme in this concept of patriotic history that you
are exploring and how this became a central grievance. Now the question
for many people of course is why did it take almost 20 years for
Mugabe and ZANU PF to make land an issue seeing this coincided with
their political fortunes taking a dive?
Tendi: Right, before
I answer that I just go back to the discussion we had at the beginning.
I mentioned land is an important theme in patriotic history, the
way land is used, land was a real grievance in the Zimbabwe liberation
struggle, right?
So there's violence
around the land seizures, we've witnessed that and that's
deplorable, that deserves to be condemned but still along with that
violence was this real idea, this real history that there was real
land imbalance between blacks and whites, right? So you have the
violence coercing people but you have the real grievance, ideas
about a real, a very real history that convinced many people.
But now to answer your
question - I think why it took long to address the land grievance
I think first you have to go to the Lancaster House Settlement and
the first ten years the government could not take over land on a
compulsory basis so they sort of had their hands tied at that period
but even then, this must be said, in the first ten years of independence,
even under this arrangement, significant land reform occurred in
that period.
In that first ten years
we saw the largest ever land redistribution exercise of its type
in Africa, sub-Saharan Africa and the reforms, the land reforms
that went ahead in the first ten years of independence were actually
given a seal of approval by the British government. This was done
well but things change of course after 1990.
I think 1990 and the
book traces this as well, how the land grievance develops, how it
was addressed. Throughout the 1990s ZANU PF went through periods
where land ceased to be a priority and for example I'll cite
the DRC conflict. More money was spent on waging the DRC war than
was spent on land reform in the 1990s period, that's an example
of how land having lost priority.
But then there are other
themes, for instance this is something ZANU PF doesn't like
to discuss because in ZANU PF's construction, the way ZANU
PF has used ideas, about history, about land, the history of land
in Zimbabwe, ZANU PF has always argued that the reason why it took
them to address, the reason why it took them long to address the
land reform issue was because Britain withheld funding, right?
It was the British government
that withheld funding and this is why land reform did not speed
up but an interesting thing the book shows is that from 1990 until
after the apartheid transition ZANU PF at the request of the Commonwealth
secretary general Emeka Anyaoku agreed to delay land reform until
the South African apartheid transition was over.
Why? Because if land
reform had occurred in 1990 at the time when the Lancaster House
clause that I spoke of earlier had lapsed, you'd have a significant
white flight. Image the white flight in post-2000, that occurred
in post-2000 happened in 1990, this would have made white South
Africans resist a change, resist a . . .
Guma: But the problem
is the first legitimate land invasions were not even done by the
party (ZANU PF), it was villagers in Svosve and you had the same
government that is now claiming to be advancing the land reform
agenda actually sending the police to remove those villagers so
the question remains for a lot of people why this became a convenient
agenda when the regime had lost support?
Tendi: Again, I'll
take it you mentioned how they sent the police to remove the land
invaders. In the 1980s as well I remember in 1980 this is when land
invaders were called squatters and they would send the police and
the army to take these people off the farms but today, when you
look at the way ZANU PF presents that whole history, that's
not mentioned at all anymore, it's kind of like forgotten.
I have to agree with
you there, it is forgotten now and it's one thing the book
is talking about how ideas, history, histories of land are being
reinterpreted all the time and its that what I call patriotic history.
But obviously the reason why, key reason why ZANU PF's view,
why it begins to endorse the land seizures in 2000 was of course
the rise of the MDC.
The loss in the referendum
in February (2000) alerted ZANU PF to the fact that - hey a significant
opposition has finally come forth - and the land seizures were endorsed,
were used as part of an election campaign that sought to defeat
the MDC. One by using ideas of real grievance about land and two,
the violence - they work together - ideas and violence.
Guma: Now you do talk
about a theme where there's a dichotomy between sell-outs
and patriots and that Zimbabwe's history has essentially been
broken into a series of conflicts between the patriots and traitors.
You do talk about the MDC's selection of allies and how this
has affected it's ideological coherence - let's talk
a bit more about that - what's your argument there?
Tendi: Well my argument
with regard to MDC - one, they did not take history very seriously;
unlike ZANU PF they didn't take the battle of ideas, the uses
of ideas very seriously and for those reasons they got caught out
so to speak.
Number one for instance
- choice of allies - it was clear from early 2000 that
countries such as Britain had a clear favour for the MDC over ZANU
PF and then when something like that happens in the context of ZANU
PF's uses of history when it was constructing the MDC as a
sell-out party, one bent on working as an agent for the re-colonisation
of Zimbabwe that was detrimental to the MDC's standing.
Many Southern African
leaders and African leaders more widely were very suspicious of
the MDC for a long time because of the choice of those kind of allies.
Guma: But isn't
the problem the fact that some of the African countries have leaders
who are essentially behaving the same as Mugabe himself. You are
talking about getting allies like Obiang (Equatorial Guinea), King
Mswathi (Swaziland), they don't necessarily run thriving democracies
themselves so wasn't that, the MDC's choosing of allies
really merely by default in terms of gravitating towards countries
that respect democratic ideals?
Tendi: I don't
think so. I have to beg to differ. While there are a significant
number of African leaders whom that you cite, King Mswathi for example
or Obiang, undemocratic, rights violators you have to look critically
as well at the MDC's choice of allies.
At the time MDC was choosing
its choice of allies was early 2000, this is when the momentum towards
the Iraq war is being built up for example, that was an illegal
invasion. There were serious rights violations and continue to be
in Iraq, the tortures in Guantanamo Bay, Abu Ghraib (Iraq) by the
MDC's choice of those allies so this again proved detrimental
to the party.
Guma: I have a direct
question for you. You have carefully of course in your book constructed
how ZANU PF, or in a sense de-constructed how ZANU PF are pushing
this agenda of patriotic history, branding the MDC as sell-outs
while they are the patriots but the question people would want to
know is - March 2008, ZANU PF had the police, the army, the
CIO, the state controlled media on their side, registrar general,
voters' roll that was in shambles but they still lost the
elections to the MDC led by Tsvangirai and with that whole sell-out
package that you are talking about. How do you explain that? How
is it that Zimbabweans continue to vote for these so-called sell-outs?
Tendi: Right, I have
two things that I have to explain to you around that. Number one
- the period that you speak of, 2008, we had the lowest voter
turn-out ever, in terms of apathy the highest ever and I think to
a significant degree that had much to do with the result.
We had in 2008 divisions
within ZANU PF - they were not able to mobilise the electoral
base in the same way that they have in the past and then the second
point I want to say is the fact that while patriotic history was
effective and in the book I argued that it was effective in the
period 2000 onwards, by 2008 economic conditions were so dire to
the extent that patriotic history which is a form of propaganda
if you will, its effect had been diminished by the extent of the
economic decline of the time.
This explains why people
if you want to call, well you call them the puppet, the puppet,
the sell-out party so to speak, I won't go into that language
but why people voted for the MDC. This is what I'm saying,
there is a limit to which this propaganda works.
Guma: isn't the
problem the fact that the limitations of this patriotic history
kind of concept, the main limitation is that people will say as
we say in Shona 'matakadya kare- we don't eat history.
People want to see what you are able to provide in terms of their
future, how are they going to put food on the table and if you are
constantly harping on about history and what you accomplished in
the past, there's a limitation to that?
Tendi: Indeed, there
is a limitation to that and again by saying, the point I made earlier
about why patriotic history was extremely effective in the beginning,
you have to learn for example around the land seizures how history
was used, it was made out that the liberation struggle had been
about land only but while they were doing that in practise there
was land seizures going on and land reform did occur. People were
getting land.
Guma: But that's
not ordinary people. If you are giving land to senior officials,
journalists, those in the CIO, army - could you call that
a genuine land reform exercise?
Tendi: It wasn't
a genuine land reform exercise in that sense, that many, many ZANU
PF elite and those related benefited from land reform but there
was still significant redistribution of land to ordinary peasants
and I think there's a book that's just come out by Ian
Scoones, it profiles the Masvingo Province, the land redistribution
exercise that went on there and actually shows that contrary to
perceptions in the media and the more popular ones actually there's
a good degree of success in the land reform programme that has gone
on in Masvingo.
So it's, you use
the propaganda yes, but you have to have some kind of material benefit
that you must be seen to be giving out and this is something that
ZANU PF did effectively at the time because they could parcel out
land.
Guma: OK we're
running out of time Miles but just quickly, how do people get your
book - Making History in Mugabe's Zimbabwe?
Tendi:
They can go to www.peterlang.com
or www.makinghistoryinmugabeszimbabwe.com
they can order a copy from there.
Guma: That's Blessing
Miles Tendi the author of the book Making History in Mugabe's
Zimbabwe. Well Miles, your book covers a lot of things and we hope
over the weeks to have you again on the show to pick on different
subjects from your book.
Tendi:
Sure, any time.
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