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text of NCA chairperson Dr Lovemore Madhuku interview with The Herald
National Constitutional Assembly (NCA)
process has begun in earnest with the outreach teams gathering views
from people across the political divide. Ironically, the National
Constitutional Assembly, which for more than a decade has campaigned
for a new constitution, has distanced itself from this inclusive
Herald Features Editor
Isdore Guvamombe (IG) talks to NCA chairperson Dr Lovemore Madhuku
(LM) about the organisation's stance the organisation's
stance and the constitution-making process.
For a long time, you have been campaigning for a new constitution
for Zimbabwe and here is an opportunity for your organisation to
participate in the inclusive process. What is your contribution
to the new process.
NCA is not participating in this process. It is chaotic and a waste
of resources . . . a waste of time and other things . . . You
can actually add on your own adjectives.
So NCA is not participating?
Don't tell me you don't know that. As NCA we are totally
opposed to the current process. We totally reject it. Everyone in
Government knows that we are not participating.
No constitution-making process is left to politicians. A constitution
is about the people. It is people-driven. You have a scenario where
each political party is telling people what to say and you call
that a constitution?
We are totally opposed
to that process. A constitution needs an independent commission
or body comprising stakeholders from all over. The current arrangement
is that the ruling parties are running the affairs of the committee.
They are telling people what to say.
IG: Are you saying politicians
should not be involved?
LM: We are not saying
politicians should not be involved. They have a big role to play.
They must just ensure that the process takes place and not tell
people what to do. They must just wait for the people's views,
then draft it into the draft constitution.
IG: What is your way
LM: In short, we are
not taking part. We hope there is going to be a referendum after
this flawed process and we will campaign for a no vote. This process
is not inclusive as you claim. We are only participating in so far
as we are watching what is happening. We need to know what they
are doing and like anyone else you need to know what your opponent
or enemy is planning. We just hope there will be a referendum and
we will definitely win.
IG: Are you sure?
LM: Yes, we will certainly
IG: Do you have the resources
to campaign against this process?
LM: We definitely do
have the resources but there is really not much to campaign for
because the process has already de-campaigned itself. In fact, we
need no new resources.
The current process has decampaigned itself. It is self-defeating.
We will just tell the people that the process was not credible.
You see, the ballot of
the referendum itself has a No or Yes. It is giving people no option
and therefore is not credible. Citizens of this country do have
an opinion, even if NCA did not exist. We do not need resources.
Citizens of this country
want their constitution not this one. They know what they want.
IG: You are regarded
a puppet of the West. So the West is funding you in this process?
No! No! No! Things have changed. The West is funding the current
process, which is not credible and not us. We have since stopped
receiving any funding from the West. If anything, those participating
in this current process are the puppets of the West. Not us! The
West is not a prostitute, it cannot fund those making the constitution
and at the same time fund those opposed to it. You
don't know what is happening. They have withdrawn from us.
If there is anyone receiving money from the West, it is the inclusive
Government. The inclusive Government has become a puppet of the
West. Members of Copac are receiving US$75 per day from the West
and we are getting nothing. We don't need their money, we
have our own resources.
IG: Is it true that you
have deployed your people all over?
Deploying people? We do not deploy people. Our people are all over
the country. Our people are everywhere. Deploying means you think
we have people in one place and then we send them somewhere. Wherever
the outreach teams go, there are our people there. I know Copac
is crying that we are deploying people. We are not a Harare or Bulawayo
group, we are all over the Zimbabwe and we receive reports from
there, everyday. Copac meetings are public meetings and deploying
means NCA is not there. Every Copac meeting will have NCA people
there. We have full information from these meeting to support our
cause at the referendum. The puppet status you talk about has been
overtaken by events. It is now the inclusive Government working
for the West. They cannot even sell diamonds, waiting for the West's
stamp. I am sure if we wanted money from the West, we would have
gone along with the inclusive Government in the current process
and get the money. We are opposing the West, through opposing the
process they are funding.
For how long are you going to oppose the constitution-making process
in this country?
For as long as it is not done properly. The people must make their
At the moment, we are waiting for the referendum and there we are
going to show that we are totally opposed to the process. We are
totally opposed and we reject this process. It is simple.
(24 July Herald)
. . .
Harare - Curtain
comes down on the National Constitutional Assembly (NCA) Indaba
which started on Saturday 24 July at the Rainbow Towers in Harare.
More than 300 delegates drawn from NCA structures throughout the
country are strategising ways of strengthening the NCA's roadmap
regarding the writing of the country's constitution and the
TAKE CHARGE Campaign.
The structures are in
attendance include Provincial and constituency chairpersons, National
Task Force, Management committee and the secretariat members.
at the Indaba National Chairperson Assembly (NCA) and constitutional
law expert Dr Lovemore Madhuku said the NCA is ready for the referendum
which the NCA will vigorously campaign for the rejection of the
COPAC sponsored draft constitution.
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