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Hot
seat: Analyst Tony Reeler on 'what will resolve the Zim crisis'
Violet Gonda, SW Radio Africa
June 18, 2010
http://www.swradioafrica.com/pages/hotseat230610.htm
Reeler is the
Director of the Research
and Advocacy Unit. His organisation recently released the report:
'What are the options for Zimbabwe? Dealing with the obvious!' Robert
Mugabe says elections will be held next year with or without a new
constitution and his counterpart in the coalition, Morgan Tsvangirai,
agrees the way forward is for an election next year. But what needs
to be addressed before it's possible to hold a truly free
and fair election in Zimbabwe ? Does stability bring good elections
or good elections bring stability?
Violet
Gonda: My guest on the Hot Seat programme is Tony Reeler,
the director of the Research and Advocacy Unit with his analysis
on the unfolding events in Zimbabwe. Tony, let's start with
getting your thoughts on the situation in Zimbabwe. What is your
reading of the political situation right now?
Tony
Reeler: Violet as you may know RAU recently
put out a report entitled "What are the options" and
we put that out very much in response to the situation as it was
at the time and the report came out about a month ago and I think
we would argue that the situation has not changed in any material
detail, so the arguments we were making in that brief report still
stand. If you remember that report, we analysed the situation from
the March 2008 election to the current time and essentially what
we were arguing was that there was an opportunity in March 2008
for the crisis to be resolved if SADC had acted in a completely
different way. They didn't, the June election emerged and
as a consequence of that we ended up with the Global
Political Agreement and since that time, what we see is a very
polarised, stuck process of an inclusive government that doesn't
really operate like an inclusive government, it operates like two
governments largely struggling with each other and despite some
small changes if you want, in the humanitarian and economic situation,
the major political issues are not being resolved. It's an
inclusive government in name but it certainly doesn't behave
like an inclusive government in behaviour, you know they contradict
each other, they countermand each other, they don't implement
the Agreement in full.
So our view
was that Zimbabwe was in a political crisis in March 2008 and remains
in a political crisis in June 2010. And the question we were trying
to address was, what will resolve the crisis? And there are many
different views currently at the moment about how this crisis is
going to be resolved. The dominant view is it will be resolved by
mediation or it will be resolved by the parties coming together
and finally agreeing on what the final implementation of the Agreement
will be. But our view was, that whatever happens, the final resolution
of the crisis will involve an election and so our view was, let's
start looking at the quality of the election because it is the case
that all elections since 2000 have been highly disputed affairs
and rejected in the main by most of the international community.
That's what we were arguing in brief.
Gonda:
We will come to the issue of the elections, but I want to go back
to the issue of the stalemate. In your view, why do you think the
partners in this GNU, in this inclusive government, are failing
to resolve their differences? Why can they not get agreement between
them?
Reeler:
Well you've got to start off with the understanding that of
the two main parties, they are ideologically different if you want
and certainly are competitors. They're not coming together
out of mutual desire to work together. They're coming together
because the situation demands a forced marriage. So in this sense,
the Global Political Agreement which is argued to be a solution
is really only a starting point for bringing two largely hostile
parties together to work out a future. It's not a solution
in itself, it's a mechanism for a solution and what is working
out in this process are the differences between the two parties
that existed before the Global Political Agreement was signed and
it represents the difficulty of two parties who have been contesting
for political power and control of the State since 2000, since before
2000. So this is a marriage of inconvenience you might even put
it, it's not the choice of either of these two parties to
be in this relationship together and therefore one must expect an
enormous amount of friction and difficulty and suspicion between
the two parties.
Gonda: As you said the
talks are endless but what do you think is the strategy of the different
parties in this unity government?
Reeler:
I think both parties are clearly committed to not being the person
to break the Agreement for a start. I think that would put them
in bad odour with SADC because SADC is the key player in this, they
brokered this Agreement and they're supposed to watch it be
implemented and act as guarantors. So neither party wishes to break
it. Both parties are still in a sense contesting for a balance of
power within it, you know, all this argument about who can have
which ministry and who can have which governorship and the issues
about the Reserve Bank and the Attorney General. That is the central
problem with this marriage of inconvenience.
Gonda: And you keep saying
both parties but of course there are three parties in this inclusive
government. What do you think is the strategy of the Mutambara led
MDC?
Reeler:
Well I think if you've been looking at opinion polls. We put
one out recently on the views of women and Freedom House did one
and then MPOI did one earlier or last year and it's quite
clear that this is a very, very, very minority party. The MDC-M
grouping is there by courtesy of the Global Political Agreement
but clearly in our view and I think in most people's view,
command no real popular support. So I think their major role is
obfuscation. They represent a third opinion and sometimes the third
opinion is pretty strange but they're not in a sense, in our
view, added value for this inclusive government because the issue
is clearly a contest between the MDC-T and ZANU PF and I think their
major role is confusing matters.
Gonda: But what about
statements we've heard from some of the members of this party,
especially from Professor Arthur Mutambara who maintains that his
party holds the balance of power in this inclusive government and
in a way has become the go-between in terms of bringing the two
main parties together?
Reeler: Well he's
right. He holds the balance of power but he holds the balance of
power because of an elite pact not because that's how the
voters behaved. If we looked at how his party performed in the polls
in 2008 it was pretty appallingly poor so he is a very much minority
party so it's a bit fatuous really to argue that he holds
the balance of power. The balance of power is held by people who
have popular support and can call on real constituencies; he's
there because of an elite pact and because the way the Agreement
has been configured and the way things stand is that he's
given a right of veto at a very elite level. We don't think
he represents populist opinion at all and certainly in the opinion
poll that RAU did recently with women, I think two women in over
two thousand people interviewed thought he had any power in the
inclusive government at all. So he's there by grace and favour
of the Agreement but not by any other ground.
Gonda: I understand that
most of the women in the survey also said they would not vote for
ZANU PF?
Reeler: Well I think
there's a continuous trend and it's always a difficult
thing to look at potential voting from opinion surveys. The recent
British election will tell you that but consistently over three
opinion surveys, you have MDC Tsvangirai hovering at around something
like 50%, ZANU PF somewhere between nine and 12% but you have 27%
of the people unwilling to state their political party preference
and you have to decide which way are those folk going. Are they
going in favour of ZANU PF, are they going in favour of MDC-T, are
they all closet MDC-M supporters? But I think the general trend
is and that's borne out by the March election and continued
is that ZANU PF increasingly has, or has decreasingly popular support
in the country and that is of course a material issue for any future
election.
Gonda: And what are the
main concerns of the people on the ground, especially the people
that participated in the survey?
Reeler:
Well we asked them a very interesting question. We asked them what
is the way forward? And we gave them a choice of, what are the three
most important things for you to solve the problems with Zimbabwe?
And that came back in rank order, three things. They said Number
One; an end to violence, Number Two; free and fair elections and
Number Three; democracy and those are very important things coming
from ordinary citizens because that's what has continuously
emerged from the Afro-barometer surveys over the last five or six
years - is they show that Zimbabweans have a very acute understanding
of what democracy is, its manifestations and that they also have
a very acute understanding that they don't have a democracy.
So what you can see is
Zimbabweans want a solution, they want a solution in a particular
way, they want elections that are non-violent that restore democracy
essentially. I think they also said there has been some improvement
due to the inclusive government and the Global Political Agreement
and they saw some improvements in health and a few improvements
in education but they also saw many areas in which there was no
improvement whatsoever. What we are hearing from discussions within
communities are people who are deeply concerned about whether this
Global Political Agreement and the inclusive government is working
and people who are very concerned that there is a resolution to
this crisis. And I think what people are saying is they understand
quite clearly that the solution to a political crisis will be an
election. That's the Zimbabwean perspective. In other countries
what used to happen was that you used to have military coups or
rebellions as we've had to do to get rid of white colonial
power here but Zimbabweans are saying they put their faith in an
electoral process. That's what they hope will resolve the
crisis and clearly what that means is, is that people's votes
translate into the reality they expect and the majority of people,
when they vote, expect a particular outcome, that they will in fact
elect the party of their choice.
Gonda:
We have heard what the principals in this coalition government have
been saying on the issue of elections. We have Mutambara on the
one hand saying that we need reforms first before we have an election
but ZANU PF and, well Mugabe and Tsvangirai on the other hand have
both said they want elections as soon as possible and in fact next
year. In your view, what mechanism will actually resolve this problem
that we have and restore stability?
Reeler:
Those are the two arguments currently aren't they? One that
says stability will bring good elections and the other argument
says good elections will bring stability and these are the two arguments
that have been discussed. You have the principals of the two major
players saying we have to go to elections, the minority group saying
too early. You have MPs saying it's too early and there's
an enormous amount of contradictory opinion about whether we should
be going to elections or not. Now in our view the question is not
so much whether or when we go to elections, it will have to be at
some point, we will have to go to elections, it is to do with the
quality of the elections that is the key issue here. And that's
the major problem isn't it since 2000? In the last ten years
all these elections are disputed.
Now in our paper when
we were arguing about what were the options, we pointed out that
in a way, March 2008 was almost an exemplary election. There was
very little pre-poll violence, there was still pre-poll violence;
the process of the election through the voting and in the early
stages of publishing the result looked very good indeed. The consequence
of that election was a very clear result - Morgan Tsvangirai
came first in the presidential race; MDC-T had a clear majority
and that's the result that the election showed. Now at that
particular point and this is the key issue for elections, that particular
point, SADC had a number of options. They could have insisted and
applied pressure to say you've got a clear result, stability
requires you to go with this result and we would put pressure on
ZANU PF to accept the result, Morgan Tsvangirai sworn in as president,
the MDC assumes the government. That didn't happen and the
rest is history.
So our view
is that it's the quality of an election that we have to be
looking at. Not when but how. Whether it's in 2011 or 2012
or 2020, the crisis will be resolved by an election and that election
has to be genuine, free and fair and able to be accepted by the
entire international community and the key to that is SADC. They
have been given by Africa, the mandate to deal with the regional
issue, the regional body SADC has empowered South Africa to be the
mediator and the facilitator, whatever term one wants to use on
this thing, and they will be the guarantors and the facilitators
of any election. And so the west and anybody else can scream and
shout, but in the end, it's SADC who will have a primary role
in ensuring that the election meet the minimum standards that apply
in SADC region and then also ensuring that if the result, for example
were to favour the Tsvangirai faction, that they guarantee transfer
of power. There's nothing that the EC or the United States
or anybody else can do about that and it's not entirely an
internal matter because now the GPA has involved the entire region,
SADC are the guarantors and that's the key, but they will
insist on the kinds of conditions that will allow Zimbabwean citizens
to freely choose the government of their choice and guarantee the
transfer of power takes place. That for us in a nutshell is the
problem and it's very important that we're looking at
new constitutions and national healing and those things but if we're
not doing the work that will ensure that, with or without a constitution,
there will be a genuine free fair acceptable election, then the
crisis will continue in our view.
Gonda: I was actually
going to ask that with or without a new constitution, can Zimbabwe's
security forces for example, be brought under civilian control because
they have also been a major factor in this crisis?
Reeler:
Well I think the aspiration of the Global Political Agreement was
that there would be constitutional reform followed by an election
and that constitution would lay the grounds for an election and
a new democratic state. Mugabe has already said with or without
a constitution, there will be elections next year and we agreed,
with or without a new constitution, there will be elections. I think
we have some pessimism in RAU that the constitutional process will
deliver the kind of constitution that Zimbabweans want, but that's
a personal view, we can't pre-judge the process, the process
may be highly effective. But in terms of what I was talking about
earlier, in SADC guaranteeing or creating the conditions for free
and fair elections, the critical issue is clearly the security forces
must be under total civilian control and that doesn't mean
of one party, it means under the control of the government as a
whole and we don't see much evidence that that has in fact
taken place, notwithstanding the National Security Council. When
members of JOC can carpet a trade unionist and complain about a
report and a film, they are clearly interfering in civilian affairs.
They have no right to do that, there's no legal basis for
them doing it but they nonetheless do it. So that is a key issue
as you say, is the return of the security forces to genuine civilian
control. It's a crunch issue but against that is also the
issues for elections, as I think electoral commission needs to be
genuinely independent and has control of all aspects of elections,
the voters' roll, the limitation, the polling, how the media
is used to get people's views across.
In every way,
what we've seen in past elections is that every aspect of
the election has failed the test or certainly not conformed to the
SADC principles and guidelines for the holding of democratic elections,
fails it on every front. So there's a big job to be done;
the security forces are important but there's a whole range
of other things that need to be addressed with urgency, in our view,
if there's a probability that there's going to be an
election in 2011.
Gonda: Right and how
realistic are calls for a peacekeeping force?
Reeler:
They are good calls. My view is that you put peacekeeping forces
in countries that are failed states or, you don't put, United
Nations will only appear in any of these situations where the country
has an inability to be able to run itself. This is not the case
in Zimbabwe. The problem is that they don't obey certain parts
of the government, so I don't think we'll get a peacekeeping
force, I think probably the best we can have is incredibly intense
observation and that would require the cooperation of the State
in Zimbabwe where you have observers observing the electoral commission,
the police, the army, the prisons, the civics, the political parties,
the rallies, there are different ways of doing this thing. The notion
that we would turn over administration to some kind of peacekeeping
force I think is very unlikely but I think SADC could insist on
the kinds of level of observation, very intense observation that
could ensure a genuine election.
Gonda: SADC is due to
hold a summit in August and although it's not clear yet whether
Zimbabwe's deadlocked power sharing agreement will be an item
on the agenda, speculation is rife that President Zuma may advocate
for fresh elections for Zimbabwe when he submits his report to the
regional body. What are you reading from Zuma's style of mediation
and how significant is his role now to break this political impasse?
Reeler: OK, I think he's
already made the statement that he, and Ian Khama has made the similar
statement, that this crisis will be resolved by election and we
hear speculation that he wants a negotiated timetable for election
and I suspect that he and every other SADC leader knows just as
well as anybody else that this will be resolved by election but
I think he will, my guess is that he will call for some kind of
timetable to that. He's not going to leave this process open-ended
to drag on for year after year after year.
I think his style is
clearly different to Mbeki, it's been a much more assertive
style in dealing with Zimbabwe but on the other hand he also has
the constraints of being the hegemonic power in this region and
definitely not wanting to be seen like a bully and his government,
or the government he has inherited has instituted this whole process
of the Global Political Agreement so they are going to have to try
and make that work too. But I think his hands are to some extent
tied by the fact that we have the GPA and if the parties here continue
to insist endlessly that they can make this thing work then his
hands are tied, but I think he will on the other hand also, push
very hard for some kind of resolution and that's going to
be the difficulty because it's one thing to push for a negotiated
timetable for elections, it's entirely another to guarantee
that those elections in the end will be the kind of elections that
resolve the crisis.
Gonda: Right and back
home, critics have said that the leadership of the MDC is now completely
consumed in trying to make this GNU work but on the other hand the
party's not building any structures, internal structures and
preparing for elections. Now given the fact that all party leaders
are in government, will it be prudent for the MDC to reshuffle perhaps
cabinet ministers back to the party in preparation for the next
elections?
Reeler: I think the MDC,
the Tsvangirai faction has a very, very difficult task. They do
have to try to make the government work, they committed themselves
to it and they're trying very hard to make it work and that
clearly takes enormous resources of a party that has had an extremely
difficult time in the last ten years. So I think they're stretched,
they're stretched in making government work and therefore
they're also to some extent stretched in trying to build the
party structures ahead of elections. But I think the MDC, one of
the positions I have heard from the MDC is that they don't
fear elections, what they fear is their inability to effect transfer
of power - in fact they won't be given power, they can win
an election but they're not going to end up with the government.
So I think they are being
pretty realistic. I think it's terribly easy to criticise
the MDC all the time and blame them for everything that is going
wrong but the reality is they are working against a party that is
absolutely determined not to surrender political power and there
has been considerable evidence of ways in which they've tried
to maintain their political power by means outside the constitution.
So MDC is committed to try to do it within the constitution and
within democracy and using democratic tools. That can be very difficult
with a political party that refuses to play the game by the same
rule. So I think they have to be realistic and they do know they're
going to go for elections and I think that's why Morgan Tsvangirai
said we will face elections and I think they are doing their best
on the ground to try and build party structures and maintain government
but it's an exceptionally difficult task for them.
Gonda: And as a human
rights activist, what are your thoughts on the issue of, on justice
issues? Can you have stability at the price of injustice?
Reeler:
You know its back to that old argument, stability produces democracy
or democracy produces stability? I tend to believe that democracy
produces stability and that's a general argument I think that's
accepted widely and that the difficulty in Zimbabwe is that so many
institutions have been compromised in the last ten years. We have
deep concerns about the whole judicial process, we've had
deep concerns about the behaviour of the Attorney General, we have
deep concerns about the partisanship of the police and so on and
so on. So it is a very, very difficult situation here and that the
argument I think that some people are saying 'well we have
to transform all those institutions before we have a possibility
of a decent election', and there's some merit in that
argument, if we were to have security sector reform and the police
would now work wholly within the constitution and the police act
and the judiciary could be seen to be absolutely independent of
any political influence and the media space is completely open,
shortwave radio could broadcast from within Zimbabwe, there wouldn't
be a problem, would there?
And so the argument is
can you achieve those things without an election first? And this
is the crunch political question, in our view, is we don't
believe that those things can be transformed without an election
and a transfer of political power because the current political
power maintains that situation as it is. And there are different
views about that, I'm not sure which view is going to prevail,
the only thing that I can be 100% certain of is that whether it's
next year, the year after or the year after that, we will have an
election and that election will either resolve the crisis or it
will attenuate and it will go on.
Gonda: And a final word
Tony?
Reeler: I think people
tend to be so desperately pessimistic about Zimbabwe. I think that
we should see what Zimbabweans have done in the last ten years through
democratic peaceful struggle, is quite exceptional and I think people
need to pat themselves on the back. The country is a disaster in
many ways but there are such encouraging signs all over the place
of people's demand for democracy and understanding of democracy
that I think it can only be a very bright future for Zimbabwe if
we can resolve the problems and if we can persuade SADC to do its
job and do its job properly.
Gonda:
That was Tony Reeler, the director of the Research and Advocacy
Unit. Thank you very much Tony for speaking to us on the programme
Hot Seat.
Reeler:
Pleasure Violet, keep well.
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