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'People
in Zim are facing the same problems'
Jean-Jacques
Cornish, Mail & Guardian (SA)
March 19, 2007
http://www.mg.co.za/articlePage.aspx?articleid=302368&area=/insight/insight__africa/
Recently, judges in Uganda went on strike to protest against government
interference with the judiciary. The strike action followed government
security agents' raid on the high court in Kampala to arrest
six opposition supporters. The six men, members of the Forum for
Democratic Change led by Kizza Besigye, had been granted bail after
being accused of planning a coup and of being members of the People's
Redemption Army (PRA). This week, judges are back at work, but now
Ugandan lawyers have gone on strike.
Are
you encouraged by the action taken by judges in Kampala?
Yes. Frankly, I think it was their due. The judiciary in Uganda
has been under attack for a long time. While I was here in South
Africa, there was a judgement in respect of the 2004 referendum
on political parties. This stated that the movement's political
system was never constitutionally established. As a result, the
president threatened the judiciary and said they did not have the
right to pronounce on these matters. He castigated them and threatened
to "deal with them". It was a very severe attack. On
March 1 there was a repeat of the November 2005 incident [in which
the military laid siege to the high court where Besigye was facing
rape charges, which have since been dropped].
Actually, it
was worse, given the degree of force used by the authorities. In
my view, the action by the judges was an act of desperation that
should have occurred much earlier.
Were
you surprised that the judges went this far?
I was not surprised by the action taken by Yoweri Museveni and his
regime. He's informed the world that this is a determined
dictatorship that will do anything to ensure that it destroys the
checks and balances in a democratic system. Not only are the courts
under attack, but all the institutions of a democracy, such as Parliament
and security institutions, are gravely compromised.
What
about the lawyers' strike following that of the judges'?
This is more about the serious breakdown of the rule of law and
the state of human rights than simply the case earlier this month.
President
Yoweri Museveni has reportedly apologised to the Bench. Do you believe
he is sincere? Has he learned a lesson?
The
judges demanded a clear apology and a number of undertakings from
the president. Museveni did not offer an apology. He said he regretted
the incident that finally led to the strike. The judges finally
decided that, although the president had not used the word "apology",
what he had said could be interpreted as one.
Is there
a lesson for other countries -- for example Zimbabwe -- in this?
Yes, I think the lesson is that every person and institution must
take constitutional rights very seriously and protect the people
from any abuse of them. If they stand up to them firmly, the dictatorships
will, without doubt, be checked.
The political
elite in Africa has been complacent and compromised by dictatorships.
Some judges have even become part and parcel of these systems and
have been appointed to posts they do not deserve.
People in Zimbabwe
are facing exactly the same problems as Ugandans. Our institutions
must stand up to the dictators earlier than they have been. In that
way we can achieve better results and protect the rule of law.
What
is the state of the rule of law in Uganda?
It is precarious. There is no pretence by the executive of following
the constitutional order and, as long as this happens, democracy
remains an alien idea. The president is in direct conflict with
the constitutional order. He believes he is above the Constitution
and the law. This is why there are riots in the country.
Every regime
in Uganda has been removed by force. We'd hoped that Museveni
would be the first to hand over power peacefully. But by removing
the constitutional term limit, which was designed to rectify former
abuses, he is heading Uganda back to armed and violent conflict.
We will do everything
within our means to insist on having democracy and to insist that
constitutional order is respected. How far we can go depends on
the regime. If it responds with further repression, the outcome
cannot be predicted.
You
are repeatedly accused of having contact with insurrectionists.
Is this true?
Since opposing Museveni in 2000, I've been repeatedly accused
of having contact with rebel groups like the Allied Democratic Forces
and the PRA. I have absolutely no contact or connection with either
of these.
I also do not
have any intention of engaging in armed rebellion. But I have warned
that the actions of the government and the denial of rights to the
people will encourage armed rebellion.
Incidentally,
the PRA has never engaged in any overt act of rebellion. Government
accusations against me are just an excuse to crack down on the opposition.
How
can the international community help Uganda?
With more than half the national budget funded by donor countries,
the international community has enormous influence in Uganda.
Unfortunately,
for various reasons, this leverage is not used. Each of the donor
countries has vested national interests and these are put above
the democratisation of Uganda. For example, Uganda is the only country
to have supplied peacekeeping forces in Somalia. Countries wanting
to encourage this process are reluctant to criticise Museveni's
anti-democratic behaviour. I do not believe that countries failing
to meet basic democratic standards should be allowed to provide
peacekeeping forces.
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